[BobX2]

Bob, I can tell you that with the ST springs you don't just get your ride height back. I know it may be hard to believe with the ride of the KRX from the factory being as good as it is, but the ST springs (just springs no shock work) make it MUCH better.

Yeah, I would really like to ride one of each, back to back, to make a good comparison.

 

[1911cdp]

Yeah, I would really like to ride one of each, back to back, to make a good comparison.

Arkansas isn't that far away, 14hrs from my house to Colorado Springs. I'll show you the better parts of the Natural State😁. Although....... I have been wanting to head out west for some riding 🤔

 

[crbutts4]

My Trail Edition, with less than 400 miles, is already showing spring sag. I'm sure the spare tire and other accessories have not helped the situation. My question is, what are the pros and cons of Tender Springs vs. a full Shock Therapy replacement? I understand the tender springs are less than half the price so why would I go with the full spring replacement?

My trail was 12” front and 11 1/2 in the back at 120 miles. Adjusted them and was right back to that in one ride. The ST seemed smooth so far but I need to go on a long ride to try them out. Going to HM in august. Then I’ll know if it was worth the money


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[NoBrakes]

I went with bandit springs - I think they are the best spring setup for the krx out there - if needed i can tell you what i dont like about the ST springs - plus if your dead set on ST wait until they release their beehive spring - what they offer now is a shorter spring with parts to make them fit the krx - it isnt a spring designed for the krx - just out of a box. If you go tender spring only - I would go with RCOR - the "allthingzutv" spring is too long and can create cupping issue some have already reported.

When I bought mine at the ST factory/office They told me they quit using the beehive shocks because they were having problems and sold me the replaements. This was four months ago

 

[TripleB]

I was gonna go there, but didnt wanna get into a huge argument with him. Either way, we can all agree that the stock KRX springs SUCK !!!! Its awful that we even gotta buy new springs for a machine that cost us all anywhere between 15 and 25 grand !!!

At 208 miles I was down to 11 inches of ground clearance and had a broke front axle. I knew the tender springs were junk going in and kawasaki replaced the axle. But I agree that this has been a known issue long enough that kawasaki should have upgraded the tender springs by now.

 

[BigParm]

what they offer now is a shorter spring with parts to make them fit the krx - it isnt a spring designed for the krx - just out of a box.

That’s simply false information.

The original kit came with a set of perches for the rears only. The kit that they’ve had out for approximately 4 months no longer has the perches, the rear springs are now longer.

No matter what version of the ST kit you have, they’re warrantied for life. So if anything goes bad, you’re covered.

Also, they have a new install video to go with their new kit.

 

[Bjohn]

I have ST spring and re-valve and love it. I have a heavy machine, spare tire, tools, cooler, etc.. I was down to 12” in the rear at 300 miles, ST is holding strong with 17” at 1800 miles no sag. A little spendy yes, but I don’t regret my decision. I’m also running 35” XCR 350’s. I’ve got 3 friends with stock suspension still and they love the way mine rides and how much quieter it is.

 

[708]

I have ST spring and re-valve and love it. I have a heavy machine, spare tire, tools, cooler, etc.. I was down to 12” in the rear at 300 miles, ST is holding strong with 17” at 1800 miles no sag. A little spendy yes, but I don’t regret my decision. I’m also running 35” XCR 350’s. I’ve got 3 friends with stock suspension still and they love the way mine rides and how much quieter it is.

What’d you pay for the shock therapy work?

 

[Bjohn]

What’d you pay for the shock therapy work?

I paid $1700 back in November

 

[708]

I paid $1700 back in November

That’s what I figured, pretty good price!

 

[Rickn62]

I went with bandit springs - I think they are the best spring setup for the krx out there - if needed i can tell you what i dont like about the ST springs - plus if your dead set on ST wait until they release their beehive spring - what they offer now is a shorter spring with parts to make them fit the krx - it isnt a spring designed for the krx - just out of a box. If you go tender spring only - I would go with RCOR - the "allthingzutv" spring is too long and can create cupping issue some have already reported.

What is the “cupping issue” you are talking about ?, I haven’t seen anything about it on this forum, and a quick search on the net turns up nothing either, so I’m curious, please elaborate.

 

[skip4346]

I have had my ST springs for about 300 miles now and love them. The ride is amazing and as mentioned above they are warrantied for life. The instructions mention that they could sag slightly after the first few 100 miles but then readjust and they shouldn't any further. I will probably adjust mine slightly but for the most part they are holding up great. I've rode on some pretty rough trails since I got them and the difference is noticeable. Just my two cents.

 

[Chilled Rider]

I will probably upgrade to the es model in the future, if you really want to spend more money this is where to start. The guy from right coast reviewed bandit, tenders etc, and said your just spending money. You are throwing money at an obsolete shock technology when upgrading dumb suspension systems. 30 years ago, when working I got to see a Mellon family members private car collection (warehouse size) and saw a 1980s Ferrari equipped live/active suspension. There was a desktop tower bolted to the floor where the passenger seat was removed. These guys were upgrading their sports cars back then. Any of these after market solutions work well. Manufacturers have to pass the roll over test....sprung soft. Always comes down to cost/benefit you'll never compete with the more advanced technology from the manufacturer....Justin said that.

 

[Ron E]

I will probably upgrade to the es model in the future, if you really want to spend more money this is where to start. The guy from right coast reviewed bandit, tenders etc, and said your just spending money. You are throwing money at an obsolete shock technology when upgrading dumb suspension systems. 30 years ago, when working I got to see a Mellon family members private car collection (warehouse size) and saw a 1980s Ferrari equipped live/active suspension. There was a desktop tower bolted to the floor where the passenger seat was removed. These guys were upgrading their sports cars back then. Any of these after market solutions work well. Manufacturers have to pass the roll over test....sprung soft. Always comes down to cost/benefit you'll never compete with the more advanced technology from the manufacturer....Justin said that.

LOL if these shocks are so smart then why are the fastest trophy trucks in the desert not running that technology I personally will stick with old school springs and valving. I just came from a 300 mile trip in Baja and there was a new Polaris live valve turbo there and we were on some of the roughest part of the 500 course and I could run way faster thru those sections and the ST springs did make a huge difference.

 

[cnj]

LOL if these shocks are so smart then why are the fastest trophy trucks in the desert not running that technology I personally will stick with old school springs and valving. I just came from a 300 mile trip in Baja and there was a new Polaris live valve turbo there and we were on some of the roughest part of the 500 course and I could run way faster thru those sections and the ST springs did make a huge difference.

Yep. Agree.

 

[cnj]

I paid $1700 back in November

Was that for the valving, springs and set up your machine?

 

[Remote 8]

Question.

Will the springs in a live valve machine sag and have to be replaced, or does the live valve allow proper springs to be installed and meet the DOT requirements that supposedly are the reason stock tenders suck?

 

[1911cdp]

LOL if these shocks are so smart then why are the fastest trophy trucks in the desert not running that technology I personally will stick with old school springs and valving. I just came from a 300 mile trip in Baja and there was a new Polaris live valve turbo there and we were on some of the roughest part of the 500 course and I could run way faster thru those sections and the ST springs did make a huge difference.

100% agree. Adding a bunch of electronics is a horrible idea. I'll be amused when I see an ES running around with 9" of ground clearance.

 

[Ron E]

I'm almost positive that the ES has the same springs as the other machines only difference is all the electronics

 

[Bjohn]

Was that for the valving, springs and set up your machine?

Valving, springs, and silent crossovers. I shipped them in and installed/adjusted myself. Ride height was good when I first put them on so I went with it for the break in. Put 300 miles on them, maybe lost about a half inch, readjusted ride height and have been good since. Front shocks were more of a pain because I had to pull them in order to adjust preload. It did take me a couple of rides to clock the springs because I did have some slight rubbing on factory crossovers