[BigParm]

Anyone running them on the front shocks?
When is it advantageous to have them?

I’m thinking of adding a set when I change over my springs, but not sure if I really need them. What type of riding do they become a necessary addition?

 

[Chaka]

Anyone running them on the front shocks?
When is it advantageous to have them?

I’m thinking of adding a set when I change over my springs, but not sure if I really need them. What type of riding do they become a necessary addition?

I have some to put on when i go with 35's I see the advantage of using to avoid the full extension and extra pressure on the bottom of the shock once you move up in weight of a tire

 

[Bill B 1]

I'm planning on getting some for the front at least. With the new springs I noticed the fronts topping out, and now with the 35s I think it is a good idea. Haven't notice the rear topping at all, yet.

 

[Chaka]

I'm planning on getting some for the front at least. With the new springs I noticed the fronts topping out, and now with the 35s I think it is a good idea. Haven't notice the rear topping at all, yet.

What springs do you have? how much preload? a lot of time it is the preload that increases that. I have the ST springs and as of yet not hear that ... but i also still run the sway bar
Could it be the crossovers hitting ?

 

[Bill B 1]

What springs do you have? how much preload? a lot of time it is the preload that increases that. I have the ST springs and as of yet not hear that ... but i also still run the sway bar
Could it be the crossovers hitting ?

I have the Bandit stage 3 springs. It's definitely not the crossover rings, this is topping for sure. I have 0 crossover clunk with these springs. I don't remember the preload numbers off hand, but I set them to Bandits starting recommendation then after breaking them in I adjusted them to get back the .5" of sag that I had. I noticed them topping the first off-road ride after spring installation. Its not like its a constant thing, just now and then, but I don't ride hard either, mostly mountain trails and rocks. But its enough to get my attention. I would think if someone is running hard and fast it would be a lot worse than what I am experiencing. I do have the sway bar disconnected. To bad these shocks don't have a rebound adjustment, I'll bet just slowing that down a bit would take care of the issue.

 

[Bill B 1]

I have some to put on when i go with 35's I see the advantage of using to avoid the full extension and extra pressure on the bottom of the shock once you move up in weight of a tire

Where did you get them?

 

[Chaka]

Where did you get them?

I bought the EXE straps https://elitesxsengineering.com/shop/ols/products/krx-complete-limit-strap-system I have a couple friends running them (@JTW ) and they seemed to like them. I will let you know it took quite a while to receive them.

I have the Bandit stage 3 springs. It's definitely not the crossover rings, this is topping for sure. I have 0 crossover clunk with these springs. I don't remember the preload numbers off hand, but I set them to Bandits starting recommendation then after breaking them in I adjusted them to get back the .5" of sag that I had. I noticed them topping the first off-road ride after spring installation. Its not like its a constant thing, just now and then, but I don't ride hard either, mostly mountain trails and rocks. But its enough to get my attention. I would think if someone is running hard and fast it would be a lot worse than what I am experiencing. I do have the sway bar disconnected. To bad these shocks don't have a rebound adjustment, I'll bet just slowing that down a bit would take care of the issue.

So @Nbomar was getting some pop from topping out when he was running without the Sway bar before he got the straps so I bet not running the sway bar in combination with stiffer springs is likely the culprit. The straps should stop that from happening.

I am with you I cant imagine how much more sweeter a ride it would be with rebound adjustment ... but then I still have not found my sweet spot with the clickers so that would be one more thing to adjust.

 

[Bill B 1]

I am with you I cant imagine how much more sweeter a ride it would be with rebound adjustment ... but then I still have not found my sweet spot with the clickers so that would be one more thing to adjust.

Ain't that the truth! LOL! I am running the comp adjustment full soft. So far I haven't seen a need to go any more firm. But like I said I don't do any hard fast riding either.

 

[JTW]

I think it’s a good idea to do it when you move to that 35” tire.. particularly if you’re not running the swaybar. Also, you should still have crossover engagement with the bandit springs. It’s odd to me that folks aren’t hearing that.

 

[Bill B 1]

Also, you should still have crossover engagement with the bandit springs. It’s odd to me that folks aren’t hearing that.

Yah, I have been watching the soft springs to see if there appears to be any coil to coil contact and haven't seen any evidence of that so far.

 

[JTW]

Yah, I have been watching the soft springs to see if there appears to be any coil to coil contact and haven't seen any evidence of that so far.

Maybe try some chalk on them and see if you can see any transfer.

 

[Bill B 1]

Maybe try some chalk on them and see if you can see any transfer.

that might work, or maybe a bit of masking tape on every other or third coil might show pretty good too.

 

[JTW]

that might work, or maybe a bit of masking tape on every other or third coil might show pretty good too.

You just need to see if the crossover is contacting the slider.. coils shouldn’t be binding

 

[BobX2]

Removing the sway bar does not increase suspension travel so, removing the sway bar does not mean you will need limit straps. If you put on a monster, heavy tire/wheel combination, and you like to ride fast, jump far, one might want to think about limit straps. For regular trail riding and rock crawling, no straps needed.

 

[JTW]

Removing the sway bar does not increase suspension travel so, removing the sway bar does not mean you will need limit straps. If you put on a monster, heavy tire/wheel combination, and you like to ride fast, jump far, one might want to think about limit straps. For regular trail riding and rock crawling, no straps needed.

It doesn’t “increase” travel but it does remove a restriction to the travel.

 

[BobX2]

It doesn’t “increase” travel but it does remove a restriction to the travel.

No sir, the amount of travel is not restricted by the sway bar. When the car leaves the ground, you have the same amount of downward travel with or without the sway bar attached.

 

[Bill B 1]

No sir, the amount of travel is not restricted by the sway bar. When the car leaves the ground, you have the same amount of downward travel with or without the sway bar attached.

However if one side drops out while the other side doesn't, the sway bar will restrict or at least slow down the wheel that is dropping out. That is one situation when I have notice the topping.

 

[JTW]

However if one side drops out while the other side doesn't, the sway bar will restrict or at least slow down the wheel that is dropping out. That is one situation when I have notice the topping.

Yes.. that’s what I’m speaking of. It’s far more common to have one wheel drop than both. And that’s where the sway bar restricts travel. So for me without a front sway bar.. I think the limit straps are a good idea. Really, for anyone going to 35’s but particularly if you’re pulling sway bars. Otherwise, it’s the shock taking the abuse.

 

[BigParm]

Great feedback on this!

So for me, it looks like I don’t need them. I do a lot of high speed (50ish) desert riding, so my sway bars stay to control body roll when cornering. So I guess it all depends on your style and terrain of riding.

 

[Bill B 1]

Great feedback on this!

So for me, it looks like I don’t need them. I do a lot of high speed (50ish) desert riding, so my sway bars stay to control body roll when cornering. So I guess it all depends on your style and terrain of riding.

But like Bob said, when both tires drop out at the same time, the sway bar does virtually nothing to limit wheel travel. So with big tires and high speed you still might want the limit straps.