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This topic started hijacking a different thread, so let's just start a thread about it here. I will move the other posts to this thread.
Lets see it and talk about it.
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Well it looks like a set of these in size Large is what I need.
Mac’s Wheel Nets

or these: Speedway Tire Bonnet Universal fit
 

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I watched that too. I think securing the tires is better and I was surprised they didn’t do that. Why fight the long travel suspension at all.
 

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I watched that too. I think securing the tires is better and I was surprised they didn’t do that. Why fight the long travel suspension at all.
Gotta agree with you. I've been tying my machines down with tire bonnets for years. I've never had one move or come loose.
 

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Here’s my 2 cents. I too follow the ST way of tying down, but I also secure the frame. To me anyway, should you blow a tire or break an axel, whatever, that machine is going to act like a yo-yo when that trailer goes sideways. By tying down the frame, everything acts as one solid unit.
 

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Not sure how it would blow a tire or break anything when riding on the trailer, but I strap all four tires, so it would still have three good secure points. Tying down to the frame is also a good secure method, but you are still shocking the straps a bit every time the suspension flexes when hitting bumps.
I'm not saying one way is right and the other is wrong. I just prefer doing it the way I do it. If my machines haven't come loose or come off on the minefields they call roads in Colorado it's gotta be good... 🤣
 

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Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. Are you talking about the tow vehicle? Either way, no way is the machine going to come off of the trailer. The KRX suspension is going to flex using either method of strapping it down unless you completely compress your springs when you tie it down by the frame.
 

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I agree on the tire method, at some point I gotta buy the Erickson E track mount system. For now 0 issues using some porter cable ratchet straps and tying them as ST mentioned in they’re video. It’s solid. My trailer also has railing on the sides in case it does move or skip. I get nauseous when I see trailers with no side rails but it’s just me. In the process of building a gate ramp. It’s also tandem so I have comfort that it’s no where nears it’s full weight capacity. Just a lot of small things that keep me at ease when towing. Safety is so important!
 

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I agree on the tire method, at some point I gotta buy the Erickson E track mount system. For now 0 issues using some porter cable ratchet straps and tying them as ST mentioned in they’re video. It’s solid. My trailer also has railing on the sides in case it does move or skip. I get nauseous when I see trailers with no side rails but it’s just me. In the process of building a gate ramp. It’s also tandem so I have comfort that it’s no where nears it’s full weight capacity. Just a lot of small things that keep me at ease when towing. Safety is so important!
E-track isn't cheap, but it's a great system. I've heard comments that my straps look a little small. They're rated for 1,000 lbs. each so I think they're fine. :) 50% safety margin is okay by me.

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Not sure how it would blow a tire or break anything when riding on the trailer
Not the buggy, the trailer. If you blow a tire or snap an axel, (especially on a single axel trailer) that trailer and it’s contents are going for 1 hell of a ride.
 

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Not the buggy, the trailer. If you blow a tire or snap an axel, (especially on a single axel trailer) that trailer and it’s contents are going for 1 hell of a ride.
That would only happen if you did not maintenance your trailer. Granted there can be obstacles on the road that could cause this hazard. But that’s why safety is at the top of the list. I too run a tandem trailer like @BobX2.
 

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I’m missing something here. How is strapping the buggy by the tires inferior to strapping it by the chassis if the trailer blows a tire or snaps an axle?

(We should probably take this to another thread!)
 

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I’m missing something here. How is strapping the buggy by the tires inferior to strapping it by the chassis if the trailer blows a tire or snaps an axle?

(We should probably take this to another thread!)
Not saying it’s inferior, just not enough IMO.

The whole reason behind not strapping down to the frame is “strap slap”. Which happens when the machine bounces up and down during transport, and can cut or loosen a strap.

I secure my machine down using the ST method, but I also ratchet it down on blocks so there is no suspension movement.
 

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Not saying it’s inferior, just not enough IMO.

The whole reason behind not strapping down to the frame is “strap slap”. Which happens when the machine bounces up and down during transport, and can cut or loosen a strap.

I secure my machine down using the ST method, but I also ratchet it down on blocks so there is no suspension movement.
Being that the KRX is much bigger, a decent amount heavier and has considerably more travel than my old wolverine, I just bought these 4 straps with clips that I will put over the tires and 8 recessed rings with backing plates I will mount on my 14’ trailer. I looked at the erickson e track/chocks as well as just running e track but I use my trailer to haul mulch and dirt a good bit too and was worried about them being in the way or getting filled with dirt and mulch. On the old machine I used to strap my front and rear bumper down and compress the suspension but I never liked it much. I saw a video recently of a guy with a super duty who got loose on ice. His trailer had a wrangler and a side by side on it both strapped over the tires. It was hanging off the edge of the road at a precarious angle and both machines appeared rock solid on the trailer with the over tire method.
 

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I saw a video recently of a guy with a super duty who got loose on ice. His trailer had a wrangler and a side by side in it both strapped over the tires. It was hanging off the edge of the road at a precarious angle and both machines appeared rock solid on the trailer with the over tire method.
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I agree. You would have to tear the wheels off of the machine for it to come off. My E-track is held on by an excessive number of lag bolts, as well as bolted through the steel frame cross members. Not worried about any failure there. :)
 

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I agree. You would have to tear the wheels off of the machine for it to come off. My E-track is held on by an excessive number of lag bolts, as well as bolted through the steel frame cross members. Not worried about any failure there. :)
If ever I get an enclosed trailer I’m going to run E track down the floor and some X track on the walls for gear. But with my open trailer not being dedicated to just machines it doesn’t make sense for me right now.
 

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If ever I get an enclosed trailer I’m going to run E track down the floor and some X track on the walls for gear. But with my open trailer not being dedicated to just machines it doesn’t make sense for me right now.
Yeah, the track will fill in with snow, ice, dirt and mud. Not a big deal to clean out the eight slots needed to attach the tie downs, but a PITA when you need to shovel stuff off the trailer. Mine is primarily used to haul my machines, so not too big of a deal for me.
 

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I guess you can also put it this way, use any method you choose to tie it down and test that theory if your trailer was upside down. How secure would your machine be? I believe the e track is the way to go or tying them down from the tires. That is the only thing touching the ground.
 
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