Guys - I rode both trails the last couple days and they were great. Cabway trails are a little tight and a lot of branches but not too bad. Very tight switchbacks made it fun. Lots of twists, turns, hills and SMOOTH as butter. Hard to get much speed since it is so tight but there are some areas to open it up. Ivy branch is more steep, intense, scenic and the trails are wider. I've ridden all the HMT trails (mostly) I go there a few times every year. These were great and I ran into only about 5 people on both days combined. (riding memorial day and today)